Whitney Houston:
Classic Whitney


Consideration,
Respect, Moderation, Whitney.
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Igor Sokolov |
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these pics break my heart even more. omg, he was full in work
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Whitney4eva |
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OMG Michael I love you! RIP
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IWDWSWLM |
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Michael does look pretty thin and frail in those pictures.
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Special Kev |
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Ol' Mike looked like he was doing the damn thing in them pics. Too bad he never got to show it off. R.I.P
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Special Kev |
Whitney was Michael's "all-time favourite vocalist", says David Gest.. | ||
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emoryponds |
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Explain to me why the news media seems to be trying to coax a woman (Debbie Rowe) who did not show an interest in the children while MJ was alive into trying
to some how believe she should do so now. This is something the media is trying to make an issue when the assumption should be that she would not dare seek
some kind of custody.
Boy do they want to have the same shit that Anna Nicole Smith baby daddys had going on. Those two older kids are old enough to have a say in where they want to stay and any judge will indeed ask them that question. |
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LA PRIMA DIVAS FAN |
Ouincy Jones on MJ: 'We Made History Together' | ||
Quincy Jones on Michael Jackson: 'We made history together'
06:24 PM PT, Jun 29 2009
Michael Jackson was a different kind of entertainer. A man-child in many ways, he was beyond professional and dedicated. Evoking Fred Astaire, Sammy Davis Jr. and James Brown all at once, he'd work for hours, perfecting every kick, gesture and movement so that they came together precisely the way they were intended to. Together we shared the '80s, achieving heights that I can humbly say may never be reached again and reshaped the music business forever. For some reason I have had the honor of meeting young performers when they reach the age of 12. There was Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Tevin Campbell and, of course, Michael Jackson. I was fully aware of Michael and impressed by the achievements that he'd reached with the Jackson Five, but it never crossed my mind that we would eventually work together. But as is always the case, divinity interceded into the process. In 1978, Sidney Lumet pulled me kicking and screaming into doing the music for "The Wiz," and in hindsight I'm so glad he did. As the scarecrow, Michael dove into the filming of "The Wiz" with everything that he had, not only learning his lines but those of everyone in the cast. Prior to filming, Michael and I were working at my home and he asked if I could help find him a producer to work with him on his first solo album from Epic. At rehearsals with the cast, during the part where the scarecrow is pulling proverbs from his stuffing, Michael kept saying "So-Crates" instead of "Socrates." After about the third time, I pulled him aside and told him the correct pronunciation. He looked at me with these big wide eyes and said, "Really?" and it was at that moment that I said, "Michael, I'd like to produce your album." It was that wonderment that I saw in his eyes that locked me in. I knew that we could go into completely unexplored territory, a place that as a jazz musician gave me goose bumps. I pulled my "A-team" crew together, anchored by Rod Temperton, one of the best songwriters who has ever lived, and we embarked on making "Off the Wall." I simply loved working with Michael. He was so shy he'd sit down and sing behind the couch with his back to me while I sat there with my hands over my eyes with the lights off. We tried all kinds of tricks that I'd learned over the years to help him with his artistic growth, like dropping keys just a minor third to give him flexibility and a more mature range in the upper and lower registers, and more than a few tempo changes. I also tried to steer him to songs with more depth, some of them about real relationships -- we weren't going to make it with ballads to rodents (i.e. "Ben"). And Seth Riggs, a leading vocal coach, gave him vigorous warm-up exercises to expand his top and bottom range by at least a fourth, which I desperately needed to get the vocal drama going. We approached that record like we were going into battle. "Off the Wall" would sell 10 million copies. Anyone who tells you that they knew a record was going to be a big hit is a flat-out liar. We had no idea "Off the Wall" was going to be as successful as it was, but we were thrilled. Michael had moved from the realm of bubble-gum pop and planted his flag square in the heart of the musical pulse of the '80s, but what came next, I don't think any of us were ready for. The 'Thriller' saga The drama surrounding "Thriller" seemed to never end. As we were recording the album, Steven Spielberg asked me to do a storybook song with Michael for "E.T." We were already behind schedule on "Thriller," but great, no problem. The movie was a big hit, we loved Steven, and so, off to work we went with Rod Temperton and Marilyn and Alan Bergman writing the song. Naturally, of course, this would evolve into Steven wanting us to do an "E.T." album. Four months to complete "Thriller," already behind schedule, no problem. Off to work we went. In any event, it all worked out . . . Michael and I won Grammys for the album, and it became a collector's item. With two months to get "Thriller" done, we dug in and really hit it. Michael, Rod, the great engineer Bruce Swedien and I had all spent so much time together by now that we had a shorthand, so moving quickly wasn't a problem. I told Michael that we needed a black rock 'n' roll tune -- a black "My Sharona" -- and a begging tune for the album. He came back with "Beat It" and Rod came back with "The Lady in My Life." Rod also brought in "Thriller" and Michael sang his heart out on it. At one point during the session the right speaker burst into flames, which none of us had ever seen before. How's that for a sign? We finished the album at 9 a.m. the morning we needed to deliver the reference copy. We had three studios going all night long. Michael in one putting final touches on "Billie Jean," Bruce in another, and Eddie Van Halen, who I brought in, in yet another recording his parts for "Beat It." We all gathered in Studio A to listen to the test pressing with this enormous anticipation. This was it, the eagerly anticipated follow-up to "Off the Wall." And it sounded . . . terrible. After all of that great work we were doing, it wasn't there. There was total silence in the studio, and one by one we walked across the hall for some alone time. We'd put too much material on the record. Michael was in tears. We took two days off, and in the next eight days, we set about reshaping the album, mixing just one song a day. Rod cut a verse from "The Lady in My Life," and we shortened the long, long intro to "Billie Jean," something Michael hated to do because he said the intro "made him want to dance." MTV breakthrough We delivered the album and watched "Billie Jean" -- thanks to Michael's debut performance of the moonwalk on the 25th anniversary of Motown special -- "Beat It" and "Thriller" just explode, fueled in part by heavy video rotation on MTV. Prior to "Billie Jean," MTV wasn't playing videos with black artists. "Billie Jean," "Beat It" and "Thriller" took us straight to the stratosphere. After those three videos, virtually every video on MTV was trying to emulate their style. Michael, the music and MTV all went to the mountaintop. It was the perfect convergence of forces. In the music business, every decade you have a phenomenon. In the '40s you had Sinatra, in the '50s Elvis, in the '60s the Beatles, in the '70s the innovation of Dolby, despite the best efforts of Stevie Wonder and Elton John. In the '80s you had Michael Jackson. For everyone from 8 to 80, he was the biggest entertainer on the planet. Followed up with "Bad" and the collective on "We Are the World," we all made history together. We owned the '80s and our souls would be connected forever. Shortly after "Thriller" came out and simply chewed up everything in its way, I went to see Count Basie at the Palladium with Benny Carter and Ed Eckstine. Basie was like a father to me, having kind of adopted me when I was 13, and he wasn't in the greatest shape. He was in a wheelchair and when he saw me, he said with a sense of pride, "Man, [what] you and Michael did, me and Duke would never even dream about nothin' that big. We wouldn't even dare to dream about it." You can't imagine how proud I felt, hearing that from one of my idols, not realizing that it would be the last time that I'd see him alive. There will be a lot written about what came next in Michael's life, but for me all of that is just noise. I promise you in 50, 75, 100 years, what will be remembered is the music. It's no accident that almost three decades later, no matter where I go in the world, in every club and karaoke bar, like clockwork, you hear "Billie Jean," "Beat It," "Wanna Be Starting Something," "Rock With You" and "Thriller." In every language on the planet, from prison yards in the Philippines [Updated at 7:30 p.m.: An earlier version of this blog post incorrectly said the prison yards were in Thailand.] to Thrilltheworld.com, that will be the beautiful, grand legacy of Michael Jackson. --Quincy Jones Photo: Quincy Jones, right, with Jackson at the 1984 Grammy Awards, where "Thriller" won a record-breaking eight awards. Associated Press
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lotus |
Re: Whitney interview in Time magazine on shelves 6/29 | ||
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Gotton hold on this book. Still trying to find the portion on Whitney after one quick scan. Will read it again later
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LA PRIMA DIVAS FAN |
Re: Ouincy Jones on MJ: 'We Made History Together' | ||
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Could've sworn I posted this in the pre-existing MJ discussion thread. (With a heading for my post - that's it.) Pardon.
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jamardjk |
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chile she isnt in it
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DD |
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WOW! Another false advertisement! Seems like everyone is just using Whitney's name for sales and ratings! I guess we really can't believe ANYTHING
until we see/hear it first hand.
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nippygirl |
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I agree.....sucks
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Phizzo |
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What's up with Joe Jackson! I'm not feeling this kind of "fatherly love" at all.
Has this (no Will) report been confirmed? If so, this mess is setting up as a big time disaster to say the least. |
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MRPRESIDENT2020 |
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emoryponds wrote: 'ponds, this is why I've been on here railing against the press for years. They are vultures. And Don't let it be about a black person messing up. And before anyone goes there, If race wasn't a factor in anything, you wouldn't have all of these condescending acknowledgments recognizing the 'first black' this and that. As to say it's some great feat worth recognizing for the black to catch up with the white in anything. So, with a distinction based on race, race'll remain a factor for that person. [But, to the media...] Yea, man I know how they work (I speak on personal experience). Michael: I'm a grown man (...all day long, til the day i die), but something about this had my soul hurting to where @ times (especially viewing all those old videos) I was just overcome with grief as if it were my personal hour of bereavement as opposed to the Jacksons. I mean, I wasn't sobbing or anything, but I shed a few tears. I've never been one to be vested into celebrities (personally)-- In fact, I think it's silly. Even crying over dearly departed Presidents is a bit much for me. That's when it hit me. Michael Jackson was a prophet. Perhaps not in the traditional biblical sense. But he was one of God's vessels. This sweet beautiful man, whose entire image was about love, managed to make the media forget about the hell going on in the world [if just for a small while). In summoning mike, I think God knew what he was doing. From every corner of his beautiful globe, Last Friday, his creation joined on one accord in the name of love. I'mma go outta the box here-- Tell me, what the fuck is war & crises, except for a media promoted SPORT, deemed important enough to draw our attention. Chavez is saddened about Mike, but 'get back to covering the killing--- it's must see television'. I'm tired of hearing about grown ass people killing each other every day... AND FOR WHAT? In the land where so much turmoil exists, did anyone take a moment to pause & notice how the same AMERICAN figure who in life & death touched those in his own nation, did it (if not more) in regions where there is so much animosity to america. For just a moment, we were all affected by the same man. For a lil while, we were all on the love train that extended throughout this world. That's amazing, but not important enough. Professional Gangbanging is more important. These people are like children. How is 24/7 coverage of people blowing themselves up; murdering, & killing other brothers & sisters any different from the gangsta rap that we like to scorn for it's detrimental influence on the younger generations. I can get deeper into this but hopefully, I made the point. What the world needs now is love and we all loved him, because mike was about love. Don't get me wrong, we need keep abreast of world events, but if there's something wrong with the world coming together to remember and love on someone or something that brought so much universal joy (w/ the press covering it), then there's something wrong with those with a problem with it. Who wants to watch wall to wall daily coverage of bad news & killing. I'll tell ya, [in my hotel] the cable networks had me reliving my entire childhood with all of the classic music & video performance clip of the king. The abatement of all of my shock & sadness over this loss was the sheer excitement of witnessing & listening to this singular man's greatness, not to mention the global reaction, accompanied by the sense of loss that meant as much to me as I'm sure it did his family. Looking at what Mike left behind me very extremley sad that he's doesn't get to be around to enjoy the fruit of his labor. There was no way this man had to leave this world with the treatment he was receiving! You know that's what had me hurtin most- how you all treated my man. Mike's entire life was about perfecting a craft which could bring joy to mankind. Think about it- since adolescence, he was conditioned to please others. That's all he ever did. Hours before his death, on practically every celebrity website, he was spoken of as if he were the most reviled man you can think of. In fact, on the day of his death, a certain morning show radio host (on a black owned radio station in SF), when doing the 'hollywood minute' joked that he needed hand-sanitizer after repeating the same type garbage reports that has come to shape the sheep like minds of those following what they hear on television--and then allowing it to shape their view of the very same man who just minutes after taking his last breath, was this musical genius whose cultural & artistic contributions are beyond measure (according to these same ppl). He, of course, became all of that the minute he passed on--- because the media wasn't showing the mess they were showing before he died. Instead, they were showing clips of MJ's greatness. By then, it was too late for you sheeple to fully understand what you had in time enough to witness it @ least once more. I'm cool in knowing that I gave the man his flowers while he lived. In every thing i'd say about Mike, i'd preface it acknowledging that there was much to say about Mike, but [as a black person] choosing not to and only focusing on the positive. Excuse the frankness, but white people or anyone else for that matter will NEVER dictate what black person is & isn't worthy of my black love & pride, especially when people like Presley & Sinatra can be recognized solely based on what they're known for, especially when their styles weren't theirs (to begin with), but their color was, thus their success. So when I heard black people xeroxin that shit they got from 'others' & how 'they' treated mike (when he was no longer useful)- it pissed me off. I'm like how do you dumb ass ppl sit there and co-sign on something you hear from 'somwhere' else & let that affect how you feel about a black historical cultural figure. Especially, when you have proven 'evil-doers' (to use bush's phrase) from the text books, whose greatness will always be preserved by those to whom they represent, e.g. America & [white] slave owning presidents [HELL, even America & white slave owning dissidents who tried & almost succeeded in bringing down america]. I'll be damned If i didn't see the president saluting Andrew Jackson & all the other slave owning presidents like it's nothin. I guess it's the white side. Mike says it doesn't matter. who knows. But, we could learn from the natives-- try paying with a twenty @ an idian casino & they'll beat the shit out you..., but i digress. It's late so peace.* cant sleep watching this mike coverage. * 'Gone Too Soon' Love You, Mike!!!! |
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Jason009 |
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MRPresident2020, Great post!! Very well said.
And here is some news about MJ's sales this week.
Michael Jackson Rocks Billboard Charts
June 30, 2009 12:51 AM ET Keith Caulfield, L.A. Michael Jackson is about to rock the Billboard charts. Nielsen SoundScan's sales numbers won't be released until Wednesday (July 1) morning, but industry prognosticators indicate that three of Jackson's albums -- "Number Ones," "The Essential Michael Jackson" and "Thriller" -- each sold 100,000 copies last week. The sales tracking week ended at the close of business on Sunday (June 28) night. To compare, Jackson's entire catalog of solo albums sold 10,000 in the week that ended June 21. The aforementioned titles will also be the top three albums on Billboard's Top Pop Catalog chart, and Jackson may lock up anywhere between six to nine slots in tally's the top 10. Other Jackson albums looking to make a big splash on the chart include "Off the Wall, "Bad," "Dangerous" and his box set "The Ultimate Collection." Additionally, two Jackson 5 compilations -- "The Ultimate Collection" and "20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection" -- are both doing brisk business. Previously, the record for the most concurrent top 10 titles by an act was five. Both AC/DC and the Beatles managed that feat. There is also the chance that the entire top 10 on the Pop Catalog chart may be filled with Jackson-related titles, counting the two Jackson 5 compilations. Last week's No. 1 on the Pop Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. The Pop Catalog chart, established in 1991, houses albums that are at least 18 months old. Catalog albums are ineligible to appear on the Billboard 200 albums chart, though they can chart on the all-encompassing Top Comprehensive Albums list. Last year, Jackson's expanded reissue of "Thriller" pushed the set to a re-entry at No. 1 on the Pop Catalog tally with 166,000 copies sold in its first week. With the Black Eyed Peas' "The E.N.D." looking to recapture the No. 1 slot on the Billboard 200 chart with slightly less than 100,000, this week will mark the first time a catalog album has sold more than a current release. The bulk of Jackson's album sales came from digital retailers, as many brick and mortar stores quickly ran out of available stock. Sources say his "Essential Michael Jackson," "Number Ones" and "Thriller" each sold more than 30,000 digital albums, with "Essential" moving more than 70,000 downloads alone. The digital impact will also be felt on our Hot Digital Songs chart, where the King of Pop is certain to make a big splash. His digital track sales went from about 40,000 the week ending June 21 to around 1.8 million last week. His top sellers will include "Man in the Mirror," "The Way You Make Me Feel," "Billie Jean" and "Smooth Criminal." http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/michae...003988912.story |
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Phizzo wrote: Im disgusted by this so im not planning on watching it again but there's a bet red carpet interview with Joe Jackson where the journalist (CNN) askes him what the family's next step is going to be.. where Mr Jackson answers: " Yeah yeah yeah, the family is doing good.. but i want you to meet this guy".... and his businessparnter steps up...Mr Jackson: " Tell him, tell him..." Businesspartner: " Mr Jackon's new label will go Blue Ray!"... That was disturbing to watch.. |
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lotus |
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Another false claim after BET award ? No wonder I could not find her interview. Anyway it's a good read ............
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lotus |
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There was rumour that MJ change his face so as not to look like ....his next of kin then.
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Whitney4eva |
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yeah i also bought one....im gonna frame it because 10 years from know im sure its gonna be worth something
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Nikray |
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LA PRIMA DIVAS FAN wrote:Thanks Lee!! Great thoughts from Quincy...I have to say like most people I can recall were I was when I heard first heard "Off the Wall" and "Thriller", for the first time it was just so impressive to this day. As a side note Saturday night a good friend had a birthday party at a well known country nightclub in my area. I love country music, but was not looking forward to spending hours in the country bar( not need to guess why)....but guess what the country dj and crowd requested all night...yes MJ. The DJ spent the entire night paying tribute to Michael Jackson...I had to be reminded that during my youth that almost every person I knew for 0 to 150 loved MJ. My grandparents loved him, my parents, my classmates, peers, white, black, male, female my preachers and teachers...at somepoint almost everyone in the world got what he had to give. I even will admit I had a poster of MJ on my wall...of course he was not alone but he was the King on my wall and to my knowledge. |
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