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May 12 12 5:32 PM
Chimier wrote:SuperDav wrote:I love the articles Chimier, but your time machine is jumping all over the place. I've been meaning to update this topic in forever. Does anyone know of any good sites with chronological pictures of Whitney?LOL eeek! Sorry! These were the ones I had access to and I wasn't thinking of time specifics when posting.
SuperDav wrote:I love the articles Chimier, but your time machine is jumping all over the place. I've been meaning to update this topic in forever. Does anyone know of any good sites with chronological pictures of Whitney?
May 12 12 5:44 PM
I believe the other thread has some of the other awards show photos--there were many. Here's Whitney at the Songwriters Hall of Fame Awards on May 30, 1990:And the June, 1990 Ebony Magazine cover story showcased Whitney's relationship with her father. The article is posted in the other thread, but here are photos:
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Whitney Houston drapes herself over a chair in the middle of her own living room and seems out of place.
It's not just the living room itself; although at 25 feet high, bounded on one side by a panoramic view of her Mendham, N.J., property and on the other by a magnificent stained-glass wall, capped by a teal- and mauve-framed skylight more suited to an observatory, it's a space in which only a giant could feel comfortable.
Nor is it merely that the real-life Whitney Houston isn't the dominating presence her album covers suggest, although this, too, is true. (She is smaller, less statuesque, more girl-like.)
No, it is something less tangible -- some lack of understanding between her and the space. A tentativeness. A formality, as if this were someone else's home and it was resisting her.
Later she will tell a story that helps explain it: "When I finished touring on the second album, I hadn't lived in my house. I'd owned it for a year and a half, but I hadn't lived in it. I designed it on the road -- picked out the blinds -- but here I was moved in, and it was like it wasn't mine. The bedroom was so large, sometimes it seemed it was swallowing me. And I'd sleep in the maid's quarters. People used to laugh at me, but I needed to get a grasp on it, you know, my living space."
And from then on, as she passes through her home followed by the photographer, his assistants, the fashion coordinator and the hairdresser, it makes sense. Some of the rooms are hers, some of them aren't -- yet. You can own a house, but it may be years before you occupy it.
Likewise, it may take a while for a very gifted and precocious musician to truly occupy her talent. Or for a young woman to whom everything came very, very quickly to occupy her life.
For four years there was virtually no getting away from her, not that anybody wanted to. Her first album, Whitney Houston, was the most successful solo debut in history. Her second, Whitney, featured four consecutive singles -- "I Wanna Dance With Somebody," "Didn't We Almost Have It All," "So Emotional" and "Where Do Broken Hearts Go" -- that hit No. 1 on the Billboard chart. She was just right for the conservative '80s. She was identifiably black, a gorgeous black woman, and nonthreatening enough for the "9-to-90" demographic to let into their living rooms. And she could sing. Trained by her mother, Cissy, an R&B and gospel artist (as well as backup singer to Elvis and Aretha), and influenced by her cousin, Dionne Warwick, Whitney had the Big Voice and could do seemingly anything with it. Her debut moved The New York Times to herald the 22-year-old as "a massive talent."
And yet even as the second album was monopolizing health clubs and car stereos in mid-1987, a number of critics were suggesting that despite owning her gift she didn't quite occupy it. Some put the point in racial terms: She was accused of betraying her black roots to do bland "crossover" material that captured the heart of Nebraska, Holland and Australia. Others took a more psychological approach. Says J. D. Considine, pop music critic at the Baltimore Sun, "She's a little like a prize horse that is trained to the pointwhere it has its speed and command of the track, runs around it a few times to show it can do it, but isn't really interested in the race, or why it's running."
There may be something to that. In her youth Whitney seems to have lacked the drive to be "special" one might imagine in, say, a future Madonna or Prince. Specialness arrived -- but not at her bidding; at her mother's, perhaps, or God's. Cissy Houston wanted her daughter to wear dresses to the Franklin elementary school in East Orange, N.J. The daughter objected. There was already trouble with classmates: "My face was too light, my hair was too long. I got chased, I got picked at. Girls would tell me, `I'm gonna kick your butt after school.' " Cissy insisted. O.K., said Whitney, then changed into smuggled blue jeans -- anonymity, sameness, safety -- when she got to school. "Blue jeans saved my ass a lot of times," she says.
The little girl from the unsteady family -- her parents would split amicably when she was in high school -- loved the church: the shared feelings of holiness, goodwill, belonging, and the music. But here, too, she was doomed to be special. At 11, she was plucked from the choir to sing a solo -- "Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah" -- and was both thrilled and disturbed when half the congregation was in tears when she finished.
"I always wanted to sing," she says. "But background, like my mother." Fat chance. When Whitney was 14, Cissy, performing at New York's Town Hall, brought her onstage to sing a verse of "Tomorrow" from Annie. "People rushed the stage," says Whitney. "I kind of backed up. I was scared of the intensity. I thought they were going to kill me."
To help her deal with her gift and the mixed feelings it stirred, Whitney had the aid of a friend. Two years older than Whitney when they met as summer camp counselors, Robyn Crawford was athletic and empathetic -- "I did a lot of listening," she says with a smile -- and she served as bulwark and reality check as her new friend's life took off. By 1980, Whitney was enrolled as a model with the trendy Click agency. Soon, performing at small clubs, she was the buzz of New York's R&B crowd. And in 1983, after a fevered professional courtship, she put herself in the hands of a man whose reputation was built onmaking female vocalists -- Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin, Dionne Warwick -- so special they needed no last names. Clive Davis, searching for a big act at his new label, Arista, recognized in Whitney the looks, lungs and lineage of a future crossover empress. Which is what she became, ready or not.
For his next location, the photographer chooses the game room in the basement, with its Pacmania, Blasteroids, pool table, fake-zebra chairs and fake-leopard carpeting. The spot seems more comfortable to Whitney, who is lecturing Misteblu, her Angora cat, who refuses to pose for the camera: "You eat good, you live good, you should be happy to get your picture taken with me. But life isn't like that, is it? You can't be happy all the time."
The next years were unexpectedly wearing. Soon after Whitney Houston came out in early 1985, she toured as the opening act for Jeffrey Osborne and Luther Vandross. When the album hit big, she became a headliner. "I toured for two years," she recalls. "Then right into the studio to make the second one." To everyone's surprise, the second one opened at No. 1 and stayed there. "It was hot as a pistol. Immediately I began to tour again. I did the States. I did Australia, Japan. That took another two years."
As any rocker will tell you, four years on the road can turn anybody's specialness into a pathology. You may well be special enough to ban, as one group did, brown M&Ms from your dressing room, but you may not be able to find a real friend -- or even a real emotion. As one single after another topped the charts, Whitney says, "There was no time to really revel in it or be saturated in it. There were times when I cried because I didn't understandwhat was happening to me as a person." When the tour finally ended, Whitney was relieved. "I had done what I was supposed to do, and my break was deserved. It was time to catch up on me."
So if you are 25, rich, famous, and have no idea what it all means, how do you begin to catch up?
"I lived in my house." Ah, yes, the house -- 20,000 square feet of palatial ranch, complete with requisite pool, her initials embedded in the bottom in 16-foot black Plexiglas letters. At first it was hopeless: Lights flickered on and off as she contended with master switches. She was ignorant of alarm codes. She felt stupid. She decided to do something. "I found out who's the electric guy, who's the maintenance guy, the pool guy, the this, the that. Some things I learned as I went along." And one day she quit sleeping in themaid's room for good.
What next? What else might yield to a little determination and work? In 1986, Whitney asked her father, who had guided Cissy's career in the old days, to run her corporate entity, Nippy, Inc. At the time, as John Houston notes bluntly, "Whitney didn't know nothing." Owned but not occupied. "I remember my father showing me pictures of this real estate, and I said, `Oh, Daddy, these are so nice, but I already have a home.' And he said, `These are your investments.' And I said, `Oh, yeah. I knew that.' " And soon she did. Nowshe yeas or nays his important corporate decisions and can proclaim, "Whitney Houston is a business. And she feels very good about that, you know."
Friendship, of course, is a more subtle task. Whitney already had old friends: Robyn, now her executive assistant; two brothers, Michael and Gary; and the little army of Jerseyites who had known her family for years and now took roles in her organization. But she needed new friends. People to share her new life as equals and still remind her of the values she grew up with.
BeBe and CeCe Winans, from a venerable black Pentecostal family in Detroit, were an extremely popular gospel duo. Contemporaries of Whitney, both were married, and CeCe had two children. BeBe remembers originally meeting Whitney after one of her supporting appearances. "I told her, `I don't know your name, I just want to know what church you came from, because nobody who sings like you didn't come up in church.' "
It was the right opener. They exchanged numbers. And exchanged them and exchanged them, so they could call each other from any city or continent. "If the phone rang at three a.m., it was Whitney," says BeBe.
"She's like the rest of our family," says CeCe. "She's crazy."
And whenever they all ended up in the same town, without a producer within miles or even a microphone, Whitney would sing with BeBe and CeCe, usually about God. It was like throwing off a straitjacket. "They sing from such a pure place," she says. "It brought me back to where I started. I could be free, to express the real core of me."
It was happening. Whitney's life -- her cold, resplendent, unused house of a life -- was filling, with two cats (Misteblu has a cohort named Marilyn) in the yard and music in every room. Well, in almost every room. There was still an empty room, as one of her songwriters might say, for love.
This was complicated, though not as complicated, she says, as some rumors have suggested. "I mean, people really believe that I'm gay! It's a real trip. At first it hurt, because even back in our hometown people thought Robyn and I were gay because we were so close. But now, all I can say is, it cracks me up. I have no desire for a woman. But if that turns you on, and that's what you think, go for it. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life trying to prove it's not true, because I know the truth."
The truth, she explains, is that her career had stunted her romantic life. "I wasn't really going out with anyone. I was on hold. I was recording. I was promoting. I was here. I was there. A certain kind of paranoia runs through you. It's not like people meet you and want to get to know you. They already think they know you. So one day you turn around and . . . `Oooh, I've got this wall around me.' "
Whitney remembers a mother-daughter chat two years ago in Verona, N.J. "I said I wanted to grab for the simple things in life. I wanted to find a guy, get married, have children. And she in her wisdom said, `Yeah, well, that'll all come to you . . . but honey, it's going to take time, and all Mommy can tell you is God knows when it's right for you. And when it's right, He'll deliver.' "
By way of warming up, Whitney got Eddie Murphy. "I went to Arsenio's birthday show [in 1989], and Eddie was there. Ed and I had never quite connected; the time wasn't right. But this was when I started to say, `O.K., I'll go out with you, you know, I'll have a date with you.' "
They both lived in New Jersey. They were both multimillionaires. And he was supportive, in his fashion: "Eddie says I can sing my ass off." Eventually the romance passed, but a picture of the two on a street, her hand on his chest, is framed in the game room.
Now, she says, she is "dating. But I date steady. One guy at a time." The current guy is not as well known as Eddie Murphy, but "he does exist, and he knows who he is, and he's very much a man." It is from his pinkie, she says, that she got the elaborate ring that now adorns (informally) the third finger of her left hand.
Finally there was an interior to Whitney's life -- a private interior with comfortable nooks and crannies that only she knew -- and the time to explore them. Time to spend a week sunning in her second home in North Miami Beach. Time to visit her nephews and nieces or spirit her mother to a Tyson fight in Las Vegas. Time to puzzle over recurring dreams, like the one in which a statue turns into an ugly giant "eight or nine feet tall, kind of discolored. He's always running after me but never gets me." And another in which "I'mcrossing the George Washington Bridge [connecting Jersey to Manhattan], and the bridge starts swinging. It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across. And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says `He told me to come for you' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side."
And best of all, there was time to catch BeBe and CeCe on tour. Whitney joined them onstage in so many places, they started setting up a mike for her; she was often a backup singer (shades of Sundays past) but sometimes the lead. "A lot of people came to those concerts," says CeCe. "Ashford and Simpson, people like that. Some of them didn't know Whitney could sing that good. She hangs a little looser in a gospel concert, and she just let it rip. And they were floored."
Which is interesting, because that's what all those critics had been saying she should do, hoping she would do, suggesting maybe she couldn't do, because she didn't have the soul, or the heart.
The third Whitney Houston album, titled I'm Your Baby Tonight, is due out this month, and she is a little careful in describing it. After all, before Whitney was released there was a lot of talk about how it would be "blacker" than Whitney Houston, which it wasn't. Nonetheless she ventures, "It's a little heavier in rhythm; it's got nice grooves in it." R&B aficionados are heartened by the fact that several songs, including the title track, werewritten and mixed by the hot R&B production team L.A. Reid and Babyface. (Says Reid, "I never knew she was as funky as she is.") "This one's more spontaneous," Whitney says. "You know, I'm not going to try to be this wild queen or something, but I think maybe it's just having a lot more fun."
She is also producing two tracks herself. They seem to have special meaning to her. One is a gospel-touched song coauthored by BeBe. Whitney recites the following lyric: "I'm knockin', come open up the door / My heart's been right here waiting for someone to adore / Who's to say it's easy -- sometimes life's not fair / I've heard some say just knock, the door will open / And when it does, you'll find love standing there / . . . And if it's true, I'm knockin'... . ."
Night has fallen. The photo session is over. In the kitchen someone is icing a cake. In the den sits a quartet of cardplayers: Whitney, Robyn, Billie (a backup singer) and Ellen, Whitney's hairstylist. Somebody is griping, creatively, about bad cards. Somebody else sings along with the radio -- note for note, in perfect harmony. Billie is telling a funny story. And suddenly a peculiar noise fills the air, sounding a little like this: Whooo! Heeee! Whooo! Heee! It is Whitney. Still dressed in her sequined gown from the last photographic pose, doubled over in her chair, losing it, falling out laughing. "Whooo! Heee! Whooo! Heee!"
And at least in this room, at this moment, she seems very comfortable, totally in harmony, with her home.
CAPTION: "I don't have a new gimmick, I don't dye my hair fifty different colors," says Whitney. "I'm a singer."
CAPTION: "My mother raised me to be a lady," says Whitney, "raised me to bedecent and have dignity . . ."
CAPTION: . . . which doesn't mean she can't enjoy a card game with her innercircle in Mendham, N.J.
CAPTION: "If you thought after a hiatus of like two or three years that Whitney Houston's dead, forget it," says the singer, here at her bedroom window. "I'm here and I'm back. I'm back on the block."
May 13 12 11:51 PM
1990 Fame Magazine Inc./Distributed by Special Features
AN HOUR WEST of Manhattan, past fields of grazing sheep and horse farms in the chic wilds of New Jersey, Whitney Houston'shouse stands as a gated anomaly in a neighborhood of hidden but unblocked driveways. A small industrial complex of domesticity, of gray granite and lots of hermetically sealed glass, it protects Houston from everything - and everyone - outside.
Houston, uncommonly beautiful, the sharp planes of her face shining, invites me on a rare tour of the grounds. We take a paved trail past the tennis courts and arrive at a swimming pool the size of a small lake. (A business associate -friend of hers has told me this is usually as far as guests get. Two years ago she gave herself a 25th birthday party in the yard, and though no one prevented them from entering, the guests were not invited into the home.)
""They said, "Whitney, do you want a nice oval pool?' I said, "I want an Olympic-size swimming pool with my initials on the bottom of it.' " Sure enough, a huge intertwined ""WH" is painted in black on the blue bottom.
Somewhere, Elvis is smiling. At 27, Houston has surpassed him, Diana Ross and the Beatles with eight consecutive No. 1 hits. Two years ago she made about $45 million from recordings and concerts, a tremendous take even for the average rock star. Yet it has not had a noticeable effect on her. ""If you start tripping on it and believing the hype, you become a monster. And I don't want to become a monster. I want to be a nice person."
Inside the house 55-year-old Cissy Houston sits in her daughter's ultra-smooth kitchen. Cissy's is one of the great gospel backup voices that helped propel Aretha Franklin to stardom. She lived her career in recording studios, sweating it out under hot lights through long nights.
THEN in 1985 her 21-year-old daughter had the audacity to put out a record. Just one. And she became the No. 1 female singer anywhere. Not a video act like Madonna but a singer - someone Diana Ross reportedly lost sleep over. The album, ""Whitney Houston," went gold, platinum, all of it. It gave the world such hits as ""You Give Good Love" and ""The Greatest Love of All." The follow-up album, ""Whitney," released 2 1/2 years later, entered the charts at No. 1 and garnered four No. 1 singles, including ""So Emotional" and ""I Wanna Dance With Somebody Who Loves Me."
The kitchen is immaculate. Like most of the house - large, pale rooms on the order of Woody Allen's ""Interiors" - it seems a metaphor for Whitney's uncluttered, still-to-be-lived life. John Houston, Cissy's soon-to-be ex-husband after 30 years and Whitney's father, is quietly chatting on the phone. Where Whitney may get her height and voice from her mother, her sloping nose and sharp features are clearly delineated from John's side of the family.
An attractive, athletic black woman about Whitney's age - in sneakers and matching royal-blue top and shorts - comes bounding through the kitchen. Robyn Crawford is Whitney's executive assistant and a woman who figures greatly in Whitney's life. A number of people, and Time magazine, have wondered if the two women are lovers.
Cissy's niece, her sister Lee's daughter, is the estimable Dionne Warwick. Cissy toured with Warwick for five years in the late '60s and sang such hits as ""I Say a Little Prayer," ""Do You Know the Way to San Jose?" and ""Valley of the Dolls." It is no small coincidence that those careers have been resuscitated by Clive Davis, the president of Arista Records and Whitney's mentor. When I suggest that Davis is lucky her family has become his, Cissy says, ""He should be so lucky" with a rueful chuckle.
Whitney, after a three-year lay out, is back. Her new album for Arista Records, ""I'm Your Baby Tonight," is hot. MTV
which didn't feature many black artists until the advent of Whitney Houston in early 1985, started playing the new video last month.
She has a ""first look" development deal with 20th Century-Fox chairman Joe Roth to make some movies. She's got a separate deal with Tri-Star, through which she may make a film based on a novel by Terry McMillan, ""Disappearing Acts," about an aspiring singer.
Warwick claims her family has no ego problems. ""We have an innate ability to come back to earth. We won't let anybody stray that far. It's not to say that we don't get occasionally involved in what we are, reading the reviews, but we always get back to reality."
WHITNEY, however, can make herself unnecessarily inaccessible. A friend, songwriter Michael Masser, says, ""I think Whitney will be like a Marlene Dietrich; there will always be a mystique about her." Others say she's got to be hiding something, that someone is telling her what to do. Or what not to do. Or that she's just shy.
Not so, volunteers her mother. ""As much as she likes to talk when she's around us, she could have been a lawyer." As for the lack of interviews: ""People take things out of context. She's kind of careful (about what she says)." Later that afternoon, when we go downstairs to her game room (outfitted with a billiard table, a couple of pinball machines and an authentic but unstocked Wurlitzer jukebox), Whitney speculates on the rumors of reclusiveness.
""I don't hang out. I'd rather do my own thing. I go out with my friends." It may be, in fact, that the tabloid hounds don't know where to find her. Or don't care. But she is frequently seen at Jezebel's, a fashionable restaurant that attracts wealthy blacks to New York's theater district.
Alberta Wright, the owner of Jezebel's, tells me later, ""When Whitney's here the room is still. Her fame doesn't go to her head. Whitney doesn't need anyone to go to the toilet with her like Eddie Murphy."
""I'm not a prisoner of my own fame," Houston cracks. Her generally low profile, however, fuels the big rumor about her: she must in fact be gay and is hiding out. One story, which no one seems able to verify, has her in (or subject of) a cat fight with two actresses on the set of the 1988 film ""The Accused."
There is the persistent speculation about Crawford, who travels with and is seen with Houston publicly at charity events. Some say they live together, although the great modern house in the woods, according to Houston, is inhabited by another assistant, a driver and a couple of bodyguards. Crawford, in fact, has an unlisted number for an apartment miles away in a suburb of New York.
"" know I'm not gay," Houston told Time in 1987 after the release of her second album, but some people in the entertainment business, currently riding a wave of ""outing" homosexuals, are adamant about Houston's sexuality the way they once were about Warren Beatty's libido.
""When I first heard this," Houston says, ""it hurt me because it was something being said about me. I felt, "How could you say this?' I cried. It was not the fact of whether I was gay or not. But because they say this and they don't know me . . . Robyn and I have been friends since we were kids. For so many years. But maybe it's because they don't know who I'm sleeping with, so they decide I'm gay!"
But if Houston does date, it's probably the best-kept secret in a world where secrets do not last long. A friend of hers tells me later she saw a lot of Eddie Murphy, but his roving eye and natural instinct to party did them in.
Her family is unfazed by the talk. Of Houston's family members, Warwick is in particular sensitive about homosexual issues. She has been a steadfast fund-raiser for AIDS research, most publicly with her hit song ""That's What Friends Are For," which has raised over $1.5 million. She knows the appetite of the media to ferrit out homosexuals.
BUT, she insists, ""Whitney's sex life is nobody's business. The business her fans should care about is, she showed up on time, she gave them a great show, they buy her records, they support her. And that should really be the end. As for Whitney's sexual practices, I don't really care. That's her business." And it's a business that makes for good grist for the tabloids. ""Once," Houston says, shaking her head, ""I heard I slept with Anita Baker!"
Emily ""Cissy" Drinkard married John Houston in 1960. They had a son, Michael, in 1962 and a daughter, Whitney, in August 1963.
By the time she was 4 Whitney was already traveling with her mother. ""The greatest sessions I remember were Aretha's," she says. ""They were full of energy."
When she was 11 she got her first solo singing in the church choir where her family had already created legend. ""She said, "Mom, I got a song to sing for you,' " Cissy recalls. ""And I was on the road then with Dionne. I couldn't be there when she sang it. I said to her father, "You be sure to be there to hear her.' And he did, and he said she did a real good job. So next time I made sure I was there."
She toured with her mother as a teenager and was featured in Cissy's act in mother-daughter duets and as backup. She made her debut at Carnegie Hall at age 15, but her parents held her back from a career so she could finish her education. ""I couldn't do anything until I finished high school!" Whitney says, laughing. ""I couldn't sing! She (Cissy) wouldn't let me do anything." There was no threat of going to college, even though her brothers went. ""I lucked out."
She landed a job as a model at 16 after she and her mother ran into a photographer from the Click modeling agency one day in Manhattan. Her picture appeared in Glamour, Seventeen and Cosmopolitan, but her heart was still set on singing.
The solo that she sang regularly in her mother's act was called ""The Greatest Love of All." It was the theme song from the 1977 movie ""The Greatest," a flop film biography about and starring Muhammad Ali. George Benson recorded the song, written by veteran composers Michael Masser and Linda Creed, but it had been only a minor hit. In Cissy's show, Whitney made it into an anthem.
Masser remembers their meeting. ""I walked into Sweetwater's, where I was to be introduced to Whitney, and there was this incredible voice singing "The Greatest Love of All.' I didn't believe it; I thought it was in my mind."
Clive Davis, who was introduced to Houston by his former director of A&R, Gerry Griffith, is a notorious songmeister, a 55-year-old man in aviator glasses who is known to sit around his office all day listening to demo tapes of new songs. ""In the beginning, Clive chose most of the songs," says Houston. ""And if I said, "No, I'm not doing that,' he said "Okay.' He is a songmeister," she says. ""We're on the same wavelength. I'm partial to ballads and so is he."
Walking through the house, Houston shows me a pair of cool, dark rooms. One is a recording studio that she is just learning to use. The other room contains all her awards: gold and platinum records, citations. There is a noticeable lack of Whitney-ana displayed around the house. Instead, it is all ensconced in a huge glass cabinet.
Upstairs, in the vaulted dining room, Whitney leaps up on a marble table and lets out an exuberant, glass-shattering note that is part war cry, part delight at the sound of her own voice. Distant applause comes from the kitchen.
The dining room is the center for her family's get-togethers now that her parents' divorce, ten years in the making, is near. I ask her if the divorce, no matter how prepared she was for it, has soured her on finding a permanent mate.
""I said that for a long time. I said I don't want to get married. I don't want kids. I just don't want to be bothered with it. But now I do. I want to get married and have kids. The kind of guy I want to marry is like me . . . you know . . . got to have a great sense of humor. Boy, do I love to laugh!"
In the meantime, she has her new record and those production deals. And there's one other thing Houston's thinking of doing: When I remind her that Franklin plays the piano and wrote some of her own biggest hits, such as ""Daydreaming" and ""Rock Steady," she agrees that the time may have come to expand her horizons.
""My grandmother played the piano," she says. ""I play the piano a little. I want to play the drums." She motions with her arms. ""I'm going to sit down and just do it," she says, grinning. ""If they think I'm gay now . . . "
May 13 12 11:55 PM
rainshower1 wrote:SuperDav wrote:Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days.The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams.In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me." Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City."The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across."And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said. Whitney was a lot more open back in the day(I guess before the media chased her into a hole). Sharing random things like her recurring dreams. lol
SuperDav wrote:Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days.The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams.In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me." Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City."The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across."And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.
The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams.
In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me."
"The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across.
"And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.
May 13 12 11:58 PM
SuperDav wrote:Happy Birthday toUSA TODAY August 3, 1990, FridayWhitney Houston, 27(Aug. 9) She'll take a birthday break from cutting her new album. Whitney Houston finally finds a movie script to her likingOrange County Register (California)--August 7th, 1990by Liz SmithWhitney Houston, that young, gorgeous pop diva, has finally found amovie script that she is eager to do. Whitney turned down dozens in thepast few years. Now she has said yes to Tri-Star's screen version ofthe Terry McMillan novel "Disappearing Acts," from Pocket Books, acontemporary love story between a singer and a construction worker. (hmmm????)
May 14 12 12:01 AM
SuperDav wrote:As we began to see in the first part of the thread, the Mariah Carey comparisons were in full swing in August, 1990...A 20-year-old's hot debutNewsweek: August 6th, 1990Given Mariah Carey's voice, those sultry, snaky-haired album photos are just overkill. (It can't be by chance that one makes her look like Whitney Houston.) Even is a plain brown wrapper, this 20-year-old would probably be about where she is now: at the top of the pop and adult contemporary singles charts.Like Houston, Carey brings a gospel voice to danceable soul-pop; some tracks were even produced by Houston's own Narada Michael Walden. Carey's technique is even more formidable than Houston's, but her songs, all of which she co-wrote, are less catchy: they range from banal love complaints to a banal save-the-world anthem. What you remember is the voice -- all seven octaves or so of it, from purring alto to stratospheric shriek. Up in this dog-whistle register, she can shape a scream into precise, synthesizerlike phrases. She has the good taste not to overuse this device, but how could anyone -- especially a 20-year-old -- resist showing off just a little?Carey owes her technique to her mother, a vocal coach who sang with the New York City Opera, and her sensibility to her brother's and sister's Gladys Knight and Aretha Franklin records. What comes from Carey alone is harder to discern; let's hope the producers and image makers allow her to figure that out for herself.
Like Houston, Carey brings a gospel voice to danceable soul-pop; some tracks were even produced by Houston's own Narada Michael Walden. Carey's technique is even more formidable than Houston's, but her songs, all of which she co-wrote, are less catchy: they range from banal love complaints to a banal save-the-world anthem. What you remember is the voice -- all seven octaves or so of it, from purring alto to stratospheric shriek. Up in this dog-whistle register, she can shape a scream into precise, synthesizerlike phrases. She has the good taste not to overuse this device, but how could anyone -- especially a 20-year-old -- resist showing off just a little?
Carey owes her technique to her mother, a vocal coach who sang with the New York City Opera, and her sensibility to her brother's and sister's Gladys Knight and Aretha Franklin records. What comes from Carey alone is harder to discern; let's hope the producers and image makers allow her to figure that out for herself.
May 14 12 12:04 AM
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May 14 12 9:44 AM
SuperDav wrote:SuperDav wrote:Happy Birthday toUSA TODAY August 3, 1990, FridayWhitney Houston, 27(Aug. 9) She'll take a birthday break from cutting her new album. Whitney Houston finally finds a movie script to her likingOrange County Register (California)--August 7th, 1990by Liz SmithWhitney Houston, that young, gorgeous pop diva, has finally found amovie script that she is eager to do. Whitney turned down dozens in thepast few years. Now she has said yes to Tri-Star's screen version ofthe Terry McMillan novel "Disappearing Acts," from Pocket Books, acontemporary love story between a singer and a construction worker. (hmmm????)I think I may have known about this, but forgot. Is anyone familiar with this book? What if, in a 'Back To The Future' kind of way, this turned out being Whitney's movie debut? What would have happened?
May 14 12 9:52 AM
OmitonlyWhit wrote:SuperDav wrote:SuperDav wrote:Happy Birthday toUSA TODAY August 3, 1990, FridayWhitney Houston, 27(Aug. 9) She'll take a birthday break from cutting her new album. Whitney Houston finally finds a movie script to her likingOrange County Register (California)--August 7th, 1990by Liz SmithWhitney Houston, that young, gorgeous pop diva, has finally found amovie script that she is eager to do. Whitney turned down dozens in thepast few years. Now she has said yes to Tri-Star's screen version ofthe Terry McMillan novel "Disappearing Acts," from Pocket Books, acontemporary love story between a singer and a construction worker. (hmmm????)I think I may have known about this, but forgot. Is anyone familiar with this book? What if, in a 'Back To The Future' kind of way, this turned out being Whitney's movie debut? What would have happened?First, thank you for this thread. Brings back a lot of memories. The movie was a HBO movie with Sanaa Lathan and Wesley Snipes. It's about the relationship between a construction worker and a woman, trying to get her break as a singer. Their ups and downs. Some parts were depressing, but overall a good movie. It would have been interesting if Whitney did this.
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May 14 12 10:38 AM
SuperDav wrote:rainshower1 wrote:SuperDav wrote:Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days.The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams.In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me." Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City."The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across."And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said. Whitney was a lot more open back in the day(I guess before the media chased her into a hole). Sharing random things like her recurring dreams. lol Anyone have any thoughts on what this dream meant? You have a good point, Rainshower...I think it was around this era that Whitney started to become more closed off when it came to the media.
May 14 12 4:11 PM
xYanax wrote:OmitonlyWhit wrote:SuperDav wrote:SuperDav wrote:Happy Birthday toUSA TODAY August 3, 1990, FridayWhitney Houston, 27(Aug. 9) She'll take a birthday break from cutting her new album. Whitney Houston finally finds a movie script to her likingOrange County Register (California)--August 7th, 1990by Liz SmithWhitney Houston, that young, gorgeous pop diva, has finally found amovie script that she is eager to do. Whitney turned down dozens in thepast few years. Now she has said yes to Tri-Star's screen version ofthe Terry McMillan novel "Disappearing Acts," from Pocket Books, acontemporary love story between a singer and a construction worker. (hmmm????)I think I may have known about this, but forgot. Is anyone familiar with this book? What if, in a 'Back To The Future' kind of way, this turned out being Whitney's movie debut? What would have happened?First, thank you for this thread. Brings back a lot of memories. The movie was a HBO movie with Sanaa Lathan and Wesley Snipes. It's about the relationship between a construction worker and a woman, trying to get her break as a singer. Their ups and downs. Some parts were depressing, but overall a good movie. It would have been interesting if Whitney did this.I really liked that movie, and especially the song "Brooklyn" from the movie. It is in heavy rotation on my ipod, if only Whitney recorded that. Wow.
May 14 12 6:15 PM
rainshower1 wrote: SuperDav wrote: rainshower1 wrote: SuperDav wrote: Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days. The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams. In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me."Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City. "The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across. "And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.Whitney was a lot more open back in the day(I guess before the media chased her into a hole). Sharing random things like her recurring dreams. lol Anyone have any thoughts on what this dream meant? You have a good point, Rainshower...I think it was around this era that Whitney started to become more closed off when it came to the media.Looking it up...Statues that are alive mean great professional success. However, one coming to life can mean a broken friendship coming together again or a forgotten hope being realized. Being chased reflects anxiety about the matter. If something is ugly, it suggests the person needs to look at how they deal with future situations and judge themselves on their successes more than failures.I conclude this may be showing her anxiety about her success and suggests she was being too critical of herself.The second one, from what I can gather, she was going through some rough changes and someone wise was there to help her.I had a dream about Whitney about 2-3 weeks after she died. It was pretty strange so I dismissed it, but the other day I brought it up in conversation and someone made a lot of sense out of it. I guess I was too literal and didn't pick up on the metaphors. Anyway, now I'm looking up dream symbolism to try and understand it better.
SuperDav wrote: rainshower1 wrote: SuperDav wrote: Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days. The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams. In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me."Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City. "The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across. "And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.Whitney was a lot more open back in the day(I guess before the media chased her into a hole). Sharing random things like her recurring dreams. lol Anyone have any thoughts on what this dream meant? You have a good point, Rainshower...I think it was around this era that Whitney started to become more closed off when it came to the media.
rainshower1 wrote: SuperDav wrote: Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days. The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams. In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me."Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City. "The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across. "And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.Whitney was a lot more open back in the day(I guess before the media chased her into a hole). Sharing random things like her recurring dreams. lol
SuperDav wrote: Names in the NewsThe Associated Press: September 19th, 1990Ugly giants and unsteady bridges are preying on Whitney Houston's mind these days. The 25-year-old singer said she has spent the time since two consecutive No. 1 albums making new friends, learning about business and trying to decipher her recurring dreams. In one, a statue turns into an ugly giant "8 or 9 feet tall, kind of discolored," she said in the October issue of Life magazine. "He's always running after me but never gets me."Another dream has her crossing the George Washington Bridge between her home state of New Jersey and New York City. "The bridge starts swinging," Ms. Houston said. "It's raining and snowing and sleeting. It's so windy the bridge turns upside down. But I'm making it, I'm making it across. "And when I'm almost there, a hand reaches out for me. It's a man with white hair who says, 'He told me to come for you,' and lifts me up and puts me on the other side," she said.
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