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FLATTERING PERFORMANCE
November 28th, 1990: Orange County Register

Mariah Carey's vocal gymnastics on her hit
"Vision of Love" have been compared to Whitney Houston's, a
similarity the 20-year-old singer acknowledges, to a point. "Whitney
is a great singer, a great vocalist, but I'm a singer-songwriter,
which is a very different category," Carey told Fame magazine.

After thinking that over, Houston's aunt, Dionne Warwick, decided
to add her own voice.

"I think it's wonderful that a young lady wants to enter this
business the way Whitney did. If Whitney had at any time in the
course of (her first recording) decided to sneeze, Mariah would have
sneezed (on her own record). "

The shade of it all! Never heard the Dionne quote...

As we can see, in November, 1990, IYBT was just released. Critics were giving the familiar(to that point) refrain of Whitney having skill but lacking emotional depth(bullsh*t). Whitney had apparently jetted off to Europe to promote the record. In just a few weeks time, IYBT the song had jumped to number one, tying Whitney with Madonna for most #1s for a female. Interesting that IYBT was introduced to critics with a listening party, not too different from ILTY and other albums...

IMDB tells me that Whitney performed ATMTIN on a Spanish television show called Pero ¿esto qué es?  on November 30th, 1990. Anyone ever see this??

Had never heard or seen that Dionne quote either Davy; but it sure did make me laugh. And remind me how much it used to annoy me when I read/heard similar comments by Mariah about Whitney at that time--they seemed ungracious and without sufficient acknowledgment of how Whitney opened the door for other vocalists. Glad that there was enough of an evolution in perspective (and development of a relationship) where Mariah could pay the appropriate homage to Whitney as she did at the BET awards. 

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TELEVISION / Getting it 'yah, yeah, er, right'; Jim White goes behind the scenes to catch The Word on C4
November 8th, 1990: The Independent

ONE of The Word's researchers was on the phone to a friend about the evening's show. ''He was great,'' she said of a rapper whose telephone interview formed part of the evening's menu. ''I couldn't understand a word he said, but the kids will love it.''

This Friday, The Word, Channel 4's latest incarnation of the Youth magazine programme first developed by Janet Street Porter's Network 7, moves from the early evening to a late-night slot. According to its presenter, Terry Christian, this will make the programme ''raunchier and more dancing trousers''. Stephen Garrett, Commissioning Editor for Youth Programmes at Channel 4, hopes it will add the post- pub audience, who have never really grown up but aren't home by six o'clock, to the million or so cool youths who switch on weekly. ''And anyway in several regions we were up against Home and Away,'' he adds. ''And you can never compete with a soap.''

Those critics who fulminated against Network 7 have found less to be offended by in The Word. Gone are the obtuse camera angles, the graphics applied at epilepsy-inducing speed, the shouting cockney presenters. Gone too, is the all-consuming budget: Network 7 ate up more than 60 per cent of C4's youth programming funds; Stephen Garrett gives The Word less than a third of his. Instead viewers have been treated to a programme which is almost sober in its presentation (''it reflects traditional television values'', according to Garrett): a simple format of filmed inserts, live discussion, music and outside broadcast; a fun show for Going Live graduates, expertly handled by the laconic Terry Christian. Critics instead have enjoyed themselves with the skills of Christian's presenter partner, Amanda de Cadenet, a boisterous socialite with a fondness for words like ''OK'' and ''er'' and ''yeah, right''. Last week she was restricted to a short outside broadcast from a soul music convention in a holiday camp, which concluded with a memorable confrontation with a naked man in a bath. ''OK. Yah, yeah, er, right,'' she said, preserving the nude's modesty with a Union Jack baseball cap.

At the regular Monday post- mortem, it was agreed among The Word's back-room staff that this had been Amanda's finest moment. Her next assignment had fallen through, and ideas were needed. These were fired off by the research team with an enviable energy: she could meet a man who hammered six-inch nails up his nostrils; there was the Marc Almond convention; and the Rock in Rio Festival. (''That's bound to be heavily covered,'' said someone. ''Yeah, but we'd obviously do it in a more arcane way,'' said the person whose idea it was.)

Ideas are the programme's most important currency: repeat what Jonathan Ross, say, has on his show and you are out-of-date, but be too forward- thinking and you risk being, like Network 7, obtuse. This Friday the late- night series kicks off with Boy George and Whitney Houston in the studio. Now, no one could accuse that of being too off-beam.

- The Word goes out Fridays, 11pm C4



TELEVISION / Getting it 'yah, yeah, er, right'; Jim White goes behind the scenes to catch The Word on C4

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SuperDav wrote:

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TELEVISION / Getting it 'yah, yeah, er, right'; Jim White goes behind the scenes to catch The Word on C4
November 8th, 1990: The Independent

ONE of The Word's researchers was on the phone to a friend about the evening's show. ''He was great,'' she said of a rapper whose telephone interview formed part of the evening's menu. ''I couldn't understand a word he said, but the kids will love it.''

This Friday, The Word, Channel 4's latest incarnation of the Youth magazine programme first developed by Janet Street Porter's Network 7, moves from the early evening to a late-night slot. According to its presenter, Terry Christian, this will make the programme ''raunchier and more dancing trousers''. Stephen Garrett, Commissioning Editor for Youth Programmes at Channel 4, hopes it will add the post- pub audience, who have never really grown up but aren't home by six o'clock, to the million or so cool youths who switch on weekly. ''And anyway in several regions we were up against Home and Away,'' he adds. ''And you can never compete with a soap.''

Those critics who fulminated against Network 7 have found less to be offended by in The Word. Gone are the obtuse camera angles, the graphics applied at epilepsy-inducing speed, the shouting cockney presenters. Gone too, is the all-consuming budget: Network 7 ate up more than 60 per cent of C4's youth programming funds; Stephen Garrett gives The Word less than a third of his. Instead viewers have been treated to a programme which is almost sober in its presentation (''it reflects traditional television values'', according to Garrett): a simple format of filmed inserts, live discussion, music and outside broadcast; a fun show for Going Live graduates, expertly handled by the laconic Terry Christian. Critics instead have enjoyed themselves with the skills of Christian's presenter partner, Amanda de Cadenet, a boisterous socialite with a fondness for words like ''OK'' and ''er'' and ''yeah, right''. Last week she was restricted to a short outside broadcast from a soul music convention in a holiday camp, which concluded with a memorable confrontation with a naked man in a bath. ''OK. Yah, yeah, er, right,'' she said, preserving the nude's modesty with a Union Jack baseball cap.

At the regular Monday post- mortem, it was agreed among The Word's back-room staff that this had been Amanda's finest moment. Her next assignment had fallen through, and ideas were needed. These were fired off by the research team with an enviable energy: she could meet a man who hammered six-inch nails up his nostrils; there was the Marc Almond convention; and the Rock in Rio Festival. (''That's bound to be heavily covered,'' said someone. ''Yeah, but we'd obviously do it in a more arcane way,'' said the person whose idea it was.)

Ideas are the programme's most important currency: repeat what Jonathan Ross, say, has on his show and you are out-of-date, but be too forward- thinking and you risk being, like Network 7, obtuse. This Friday the late- night series kicks off with Boy George and Whitney Houston in the studio. Now, no one could accuse that of being too off-beam.

- The Word goes out Fridays, 11pm C4



TELEVISION / Getting it 'yah, yeah, er, right'; Jim White goes behind the scenes to catch The Word on C4

I don't know if anyone got to watch this clip. I really loved it! She is really funny and relaxed here, and I just love the camaraderie with Boy George and even Flavor Flav. Also quite a kick to see her talk about new film she's in talks with Kevin Costner about, which she names here, but doesn't want to give any details yet...

This is a great interview. Her and Boy George are so cute together. And the Eddie part, "I get it, I get it."

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Gretchen wrote:

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SuperDav wrote:

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FLATTERING PERFORMANCE
November 28th, 1990: Orange County Register

Mariah Carey's vocal gymnastics on her hit
"Vision of Love" have been compared to Whitney Houston's, a
similarity the 20-year-old singer acknowledges, to a point. "Whitney
is a great singer, a great vocalist, but I'm a singer-songwriter,
which is a very different category," Carey told Fame magazine.

After thinking that over, Houston's aunt, Dionne Warwick, decided
to add her own voice.

"I think it's wonderful that a young lady wants to enter this
business the way Whitney did. If Whitney had at any time in the
course of (her first recording) decided to sneeze, Mariah would have
sneezed (on her own record). "

The shade of it all! Never heard the Dionne quote...

As we can see, in November, 1990, IYBT was just released. Critics were giving the familiar(to that point) refrain of Whitney having skill but lacking emotional depth(bullsh*t). Whitney had apparently jetted off to Europe to promote the record. In just a few weeks time, IYBT the song had jumped to number one, tying Whitney with Madonna for most #1s for a female. Interesting that IYBT was introduced to critics with a listening party, not too different from ILTY and other albums...

IMDB tells me that Whitney performed ATMTIN on a Spanish television show called Pero ¿esto qué es?  on November 30th, 1990. Anyone ever see this??

Had never heard or seen that Dionne quote either Davy; but it sure did make me laugh. And remind me how much it used to annoy me when I read/heard similar comments by Mariah about Whitney at that time--they seemed ungracious and without sufficient acknowledgment of how Whitney opened the door for other vocalists. Glad that there was enough of an evolution in perspective (and development of a relationship) where Mariah could pay the appropriate homage to Whitney as she did at the BET awards. 

Just caught up with this article Dave I don't recall reading this before either, but it does sound like Dionne to a tee. Dionne had in the past made the similar statement especially regarding her 'relationship' with British star Cilla Black who copied Dionne's recordings. And in truth many of us recognized that Mariah's early career was crafted after Whitney's success. Funny indeed after all the years to read. Thanks