^^ No one is counting Obbie, it was him and his camp who were counting Hillary out. The race will continue thanks to Hillary's ability to fight much harder
and preform better when faced with impossible odds. Meet her in Penn. when all will be decided.
Whitney Houston:
Classic Whitney
Consideration,
Respect, Moderation, Whitney.
OT. US Presidential Primaries
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Posts: 905 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:03:31) Gold |
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Posts: 906 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:06:59) Gold |
If Obbie's people call this throwing a punch they better come harder than this next time!! LOLOLOLOL
(CNN) - Barack Obama's campaign took fresh aim at Hillary Clinton Wednesday for refusing to release her tax returns, asking in a memo circulated to reporters, "What does Clinton have to hide?" "In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted," the memo stated. "When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton's refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process." David Axelrod, the Obama campaign's chief strategist, also said in a conference call with reporters Wednesday that Clinton has a history of non-disclosure and is the least-vetted candidate in the presidential race. Clinton had said she will only release her tax returns if she captures the Democratic nomination, though her communications director, Howard Wolfson, issued a statement Wednesday indicating she would do so around April 15. "Over 20 years of the Clintons' tax returns are in the public domain," he said. "Their tax returns since they left the White House will be made available on or around April 15. This information will be in addition to 15 years of uninterrupted public financial disclosure reports." "Instead of making false attacks, we urge Senator Obama to release all relevant financial and other information related to indicted political fixer Tony Rezko," Wolfson also said. |
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Posts: 993 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:11:42) Gold |
wow BabyJames' has been sleeping all day. Read Yahoo! News. All of Hill's interviews have her talking like she's the frontrunner who will win it
now, and Obama could be her VP, more stuff that I just came out of reading. Meanwhile, no, Obama never acted like Hill was out, even while focusing on McCain,
he always had one on Hill and her possible attacks.
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Posts: 994 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:12:54) Gold |
oh, and I wouldn't be so smug. That's the kind of behaviour that can lead to you and your candidate's downfall.
On second thought BBJames, keep being smug!!  .
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Posts: 995 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:30:03) Gold |
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/06/america/06obama.php
Obama has a dilemma when it comes to coming after Clinton hard. He has to find a way to do it, and not lose the nice guy platform he's built. That's tough, cause Clinton can and has come after him with a ruthless vengeance. If he can't match her, it seems that all she says is true and he has a weak defense. If he comes hard, people will complain that he's attacking the poor little woman. I think he should approach it like he does McCain. He ain't afraid of any subject of attack, but he does it with a respectful, "no personal offense" demeanor. He's tougher on McCain than he is on Clinton actually, but in terms of demeanor, neither men has any real bad blood toward the other- yet. |
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Posts: 1549 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:32:22) |
I have a question (two-pronged really) mainly directed towards Obama supporters and I've been wondering this for about a month now.
I understand the need/desire for "change" in politics. I understand Bush hasn't been the greatest president (though I won't quickly dismiss his achievements), but for the past 7 years, people have been saying, "I would do or give anything to have Clinton back in the White House," or "I wish things were as good as they were in the 90s when Clinton was in office," etc. It has been said on the several news channels. I've read hundreds of editorials stating such also. But now that there's a chance to have a Clinton back in the White House, where has that mentality gone? Also, if there's this huge need for "change," were things really as good as people remember them to be? I mean, all this talk about "Washington insiders" and "running against the establishment" are quite comical since I don't think any of the remaining 3 are going to bring drastic change to the White House. 1) Why have many people seemingly forgotten how good it was in the 90s? 2) Were they really that good then? Alama P.S. I have a feeling I know what a responses will be, but I'm hoping for some new insight into this. |
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Posts: 996 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:33:36) Gold |
I've decided to think of this as a positive. The fickle media has changed sides and is practically writing Obama's obituary. He's back in his old
position, even with the delegate lead, so he's the "underdog", lol(hey if Hill can be called that after losing Iowa and being an underdog for 5
days only, he can too). He THRIVES in that position! He will gain lots more support.
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Posts: 1550 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 01:34:34) |
Please forgive the grammatical errors. I've spotted a few.
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Posts: 1307 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 05:27:12) |
As a Hillary supporter, I am so glad this things isn't over and love the fact that she was fought hard after being out spent to 2 to 1. Obama and his
supporters want this to be over because they claim that she can't catch him in the delegate count. But the funny thing is that he doesnt have enough to
claim the nomination and it clear from the results that the people want this to continue. Even through he is ahead in the delegate count a lot of them states
he won will not be won by a Democratic in November. But having a strong showing in swing states like FL, MI, Ohio and PA will be important to win in November.
In big state primaries when there isnt a high concentation of black voters and young college voters Obama has a hard time winning.
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Posts: 2739 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 08:52:59) |
Tyron, please.
Even through he is ahead in the delegate count I don't know how many times you and other Clintonites have made this lie of omission. Obama is ahead in the delegate count, the popular vote, and the popular vote w/ FL included. It's not simply a matter of a technical lead. It is a complete lead by all measures. Furtermore, it is an insurmountable lead. Hillary knows this. That's why scorched earth 2.0 has been launched by her, trying to get FL and MI seated based on her unfair victories in those states. This chicanery is disillusioning voters. Hillary cannot succeed at it and she will not succeed. However, she will turn voters off from the process and from her campaign, a sure way to lose. |
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Posts: 895 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:15:27) Gold |
alama wrote: Things were definitely better in the 90's but in this post 9/11 era & the Bush presidency so much has changed in the last 7 years that the same approach to politics and the issues that worked back then can't be applied now. The economy is in such a rut right now that it needs a complete overhaul. The healthcare issue HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. It is inexcusable that millions of Americans can not afford or get healthcare. This next election will not only affect America but the entire World. Everyone is waiting & watching to see how this unfolds. This is actually more monumental then just the first woman or african american president...its about putting the United States back into a position of power & RESPECT in the global community and selecting the best candidate to do that job. Its going to take someone that is able to think outside of the box and rally everyone together to bring about change. |
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Posts: 517 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:19:29) |
alama wrote: Alama, I'm gonna give you my view on the Clintons right now, pre 911 all was fairly good in America, people was still struggling but the fear of terror wasn't so rampant in the air like now.... Times were good in the Clinton era, but people were still struggling the economy was up and down, but we made it thru the 90's, we can't always give credit to our Government when things are going good and we can't always blame them when things are going bad, the equation is much bigger than that and not very simple. Times were good in the Clinton era because of the way Americans were living, times have change, it started changing while Bill was in office and Bush had to deal with it especially on 911, Bush just didn't handle the situation very well and passed good policies that were effective for all americans no President really can do that, but if he wasn't so untrustworthy and would try and bring our country together his approval ratings wouldn't be in the gutter. He is trying now, but its a little to late.... Change is constant in life and in the equation of government, with every establishment we should expect change, will it be good change or will it be bad, we have no idea.... anything is possible The problem with the Clintons right now is that people are taking the time to reflect on the pass and ask themselves these same questions, did we really have a great time during the Clinton Presidency, is it worth putting the Clintons back in office, Hillary is not Bill Clinton, are the Clintons really a change in politics that our country seeks right now..... A few months ago a lot of Barack supporters would have welcomed Hillary with open arms and would have no problem voting for her because she started her campaign with the same message like Barack Obama and other democratic candidates, but Hillary has done a 360, one minute she is on message the next minute she is off message taking us on a different ride, Barack offers something a little more constant, who knows maybe he will change or maybe not, but a lot of us are attracted to his constant message and vision for America right now.... Yes some of their policies are very similar, but if you really think about it most democratic candidates policies are... Do we trust the Clintons anymore? this is a big one, Hillary comes across very untrustworthy to me, she doesn't inspire me and her message is so off its hard to listen to her speak, she gives me the same feeling I get when I hear President Bush speaks, and if there is not a connection when someone speaks, that's a big problem for me... I really liked Hillary, I think deep down I still do but her tactics and her back and forth turns me off and I want someone who is constant on their message..... so I'm giving Barack my vote |
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Posts: 1308 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:42:12) |
Want inspiration go to church!!!! We need solutions to the problems facing this country not some Oprah/Dr. Phil make us feel good when the eonomony is
underperforming, a war is going on, health care too expensive for many of Americans, etc.
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Posts: 518 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:47:51) |
Tyron00 wrote: He walks among us, I think Barack Obama is the chosen on..... Not Hillary Clinton |
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Posts: 519 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:48:59) |
sorry spell check chosen one...
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Posts: 1309 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:51:02) |
No Nat you please,
You keep saying that he is ahead with the popular vote but they were talking last night and he even with the poplular vote Obama was ahead by not much. So why shhold Hillary stop when PA wasn't voted and a lot of other states. And if MI and FL have their primaries over it is no telling what the poplular vote and delegate count will be. So that mean Hillary would press on to make her case for the nomination for the candiate that can win in November. Anything is possible in this elections season. And if Obama was such a sure thing then he would have closed the deal in OH and TX!!!!! |
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Posts: 520 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:51:39) |
Hillary Clinton had a chance to deliver her Healthcare plan and she failed..... she had a chance for her so call solutions and she couldn't....NEXT
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Posts: 907 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:51:49) Gold |
Rosannasfriend wrote:
I'm not being smug one bit, I'm just stating the facts. The race is not over, although Obbie's camp wants it to be very badly. Hillary is a fighter, Obbie must learn how to be one. People want change, but they also want solutions. Obbie is ahead in pledged delegates, but Hillary could over take him with supers. Those are facts, not assumptions, not hopes and not random thoughts. |
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Posts: 908 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:53:56) Gold |
Tyron00 wrote: Would you say it again b/c I don't believe they heard ya the 1st time!!!!!! |
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Posts: 521 (Thu, 6 Mar, 2008 11:58:26) |
Times have changed its gonna take more than just winning the states of Ohio and Texas to Become President.... Times have changed so much, we know have a Female
and a Black man that can be the next President.... Ya'll believe in Hillary so much, ya'll should realize that anything is possible in politics right
now
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